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I hate the new Star Trek movie already!

But I'm willing to believe I could be wrong.

And, frankly, I haven't bothered to see a new Trek movie in the theatres since Insurrection, which came out in 1998, and I didn't like it... and I didn't watch Enterprise, and I largely stopped watching Voyager after that awful mystery episode with the dog, which aired in 1995.

So, really, I'm not sure I'm exactly their target market, these days.

Darn kids.

Date: 2008-11-18 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com
Dude! I can't get over that. Who the hell builds a STARship on earth?! How does that make any engineering sense whatsoever?

Date: 2008-11-18 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leonard-arlotte.livejournal.com
A society that has access to cheap and easy anti-gravity technology? :)

As for acting, hey, Sylar is Spock. That will at least pull things up a little.

Date: 2008-11-18 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com
A good Spock is good, though I hope they don't follow the recent trend of making all Vulcan jerks.

Date: 2008-11-18 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com
TOS-Spock was pretty jerky sometimes.

Date: 2008-11-18 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com
Unconsiously so. The ones in Enterprise are expressing emotions all over the place - and they're all bad ones.

Date: 2008-11-18 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com
They're all abusing the Pon Farr-suppressant medications.

Also, Enterprise mostly sucked.

Date: 2008-11-18 08:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thebitterguy
Season four had several enjoyable episodes.

Date: 2008-11-18 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viktor-haag.livejournal.com
I recognize I'm in the vast minority, but I rather liked it's cheezy "return forward to the 1950s" emphasis on fists, rayguns, and relentless adventure. Plus, I kind of liked the choice of Scott Bakula for the captain. Quality television? Heck no. But it was certainly much more self-consciously fun than any of the other Trek spin-offs, I thought. The best of TNG (probably seasons three and four) were well-written, acted, and shot, for the most part, but they were a bit too earnest in retrospect.

Date: 2008-11-18 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nottheterritory.livejournal.com
I think I lucked out by only seeing the last season of Enterprise and there were some interesting directions going on in the last season, playing off origins of the Trek mythos. It still wasn't really good over all, per se (although I liked the Organians) but there was some good stuff going on. So you're not totally alone!

Date: 2008-11-18 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anidada.livejournal.com
We did watch the first several episodes, remember? :)

Date: 2008-11-18 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nottheterritory.livejournal.com
I remember that I watched them - and that there were cornfields in them. That's about it, really. I think there was some gel and that's when I stopped watching it, actually...

Date: 2008-11-18 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neosis.livejournal.com
Yeah, at least in the last season of Enterprise the primary writer (the only season it wasn't Brannon and Braga) was actually aware of issues like that. He tried his best to "fix" a few things like that. I seem to remember a 3 part episode whose plot was built around the utter failure of the contemporary Vulcans to be emotionless and that they were living in denial of the fact that they actually have emotions. Don't watch the final episode of the series, though, it was written by Brannon and Braga and frankly seems petty and spiteful.

In my opinion, the 4th, 5th and 6th Seasons of Voyager and the 4th (and final) season of Enterprise are mostly enjoyable.

Date: 2008-11-18 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com
I don't care how good the anti-gravs are... it still the equivalent of building an ocean-liner on a mountain top and then hauling it via mules to the seaside. If we can do the International Space Station now, why wouldn't they do the Enterprise then?

Oh. Yeah. Not as "iconic" a shot of little rebel Jimmy looking at his future.

Date: 2008-11-18 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com
Are they flying mules made of space-age polymers?

If you went to NASA's ISS division and said, "Okay, you can build it down here and we can just haul it into orbit with a bunch of Sikorskys," do you think they'd have a problem with it?

Date: 2008-11-18 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com
I'd think, in the future, that launching a large scale building operation in space would still be far easier than it would be to build it on Earth, then haul the whole bloody thing into space. ;-) Just by virtue of energy expenditures; why use anti-gravs when you can work in zero-gravity?

Date: 2008-11-18 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com
Space suits are really itchy?

Date: 2008-11-18 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com
People with anti-gravity and tractor beams, I guess.

Besides, it's already canonical. : P (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Image:Utopia_Planitia.jpg)

Date: 2008-11-18 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com
That's on Mars! Totally different! Don't make me come down there!

Or... wait... was Kirk on Mars?

Date: 2008-11-18 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com
Dun dun dunnnnn

Date: 2008-11-18 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com
How do you know it wasn't constructed in pieces there and built in space?

Date: 2008-11-18 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com
P.S. - Even if it is canon... it STILL MAKES NO SENSE. ;-) In which, I will say TNG fucked up, too, then.

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