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I hate the new Star Trek movie already!

But I'm willing to believe I could be wrong.

And, frankly, I haven't bothered to see a new Trek movie in the theatres since Insurrection, which came out in 1998, and I didn't like it... and I didn't watch Enterprise, and I largely stopped watching Voyager after that awful mystery episode with the dog, which aired in 1995.

So, really, I'm not sure I'm exactly their target market, these days.

Darn kids.
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Date: 2008-11-18 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leonard-arlotte.livejournal.com
Why do you hate it?

Date: 2008-11-18 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com
I despise it with all of my soul (so far), but then again, I'm really picky about how they write my favorite engineer. And Pegg can't cut it.

...and geez, he gets the most idiotic lines.

Date: 2008-11-18 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heron61.livejournal.com
In vivid contrast, I think it looks very nifty indeed (unsurprising, given how much of a neophile I am). I love the idea of TOS with an updated look and better effects. OTOH, I am less certain about the new actors. I'll need to see more than the trailer to figure that out.

Also, I'm hoping this will lead to another Star Trek RPG that I can help write :)

Date: 2008-11-18 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com
Weirdly, I'm hoping it doesn't, 'cause I cannot guarantee I'll have the input on it that I have now.

Not like that's a huge issue with RPGs anyway.

Date: 2008-11-18 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com
I don't mind the look and the updated effects at all - though I'm curious as to why they're building the Enterprise on the ground. I just get the feel that the acting and script will be... subprime?

Date: 2008-11-18 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com
The opening sequence with 12-year-old Jimmy Kirk doing his Matrix judo flip out the sports car just sort of bothered me so much that everything after that made me wince.

The acting, anyway. The FX look cool!

Date: 2008-11-18 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com
What is it he's actually saying?

Date: 2008-11-18 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com
I just get the feel that the acting and script will be... subprime?

They can't all be Battlestar Galactica...

Date: 2008-11-18 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com
::groans:: Do I actually have to repeat it? Ask Teddog. She knows. We were laughing about it last night.

Then there's stuff from the screening, which is also painful.

Date: 2008-11-18 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com
One of these days, I'll watch another episode of that!

Date: 2008-11-18 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com
Dude! I can't get over that. Who the hell builds a STARship on earth?! How does that make any engineering sense whatsoever?

Date: 2008-11-18 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leonard-arlotte.livejournal.com
A society that has access to cheap and easy anti-gravity technology? :)

As for acting, hey, Sylar is Spock. That will at least pull things up a little.

Date: 2008-11-18 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com
People with anti-gravity and tractor beams, I guess.

Besides, it's already canonical. : P (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Image:Utopia_Planitia.jpg)

Date: 2008-11-18 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com
That's on Mars! Totally different! Don't make me come down there!

Or... wait... was Kirk on Mars?

Date: 2008-11-18 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com
From a Trek-informed perspective, it's pretty much Ronald D Moore doing Voyager. Many, many of the sf-related choices made on the show are informed by his time in three different Trek series writing rooms.

Date: 2008-11-18 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com
Dun dun dunnnnn

Date: 2008-11-18 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com
A good Spock is good, though I hope they don't follow the recent trend of making all Vulcan jerks.

Date: 2008-11-18 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com
I don't care how good the anti-gravs are... it still the equivalent of building an ocean-liner on a mountain top and then hauling it via mules to the seaside. If we can do the International Space Station now, why wouldn't they do the Enterprise then?

Oh. Yeah. Not as "iconic" a shot of little rebel Jimmy looking at his future.

Date: 2008-11-18 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com
How do you know it wasn't constructed in pieces there and built in space?

Date: 2008-11-18 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com
P.S. - Even if it is canon... it STILL MAKES NO SENSE. ;-) In which, I will say TNG fucked up, too, then.

Date: 2008-11-18 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com
Are they flying mules made of space-age polymers?

If you went to NASA's ISS division and said, "Okay, you can build it down here and we can just haul it into orbit with a bunch of Sikorskys," do you think they'd have a problem with it?

Date: 2008-11-18 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com
I'd think, in the future, that launching a large scale building operation in space would still be far easier than it would be to build it on Earth, then haul the whole bloody thing into space. ;-) Just by virtue of energy expenditures; why use anti-gravs when you can work in zero-gravity?

Date: 2008-11-18 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com
Space suits are really itchy?

Date: 2008-11-18 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com
TOS-Spock was pretty jerky sometimes.

Date: 2008-11-18 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leonard-arlotte.livejournal.com
Is it just me, or are there a bunch of sci fi geeks complaining about how STAR TREK is doing stuff that doesn't fall within the normal laws of physics?

Dudes! (and dudettes!) It's Star Trek! Shut the brain off and watch the pretty pictures!
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