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So, I really hope that the new Trek film restores Vulcans to their place as detached, competent, and analytical philosophers. Because, as I've noted before, ever since around 2000, all the good Vulcans seem to have been replaced by some kind of right-wing caricature of French people. Which is to say: meddling, ineffective, humorlessness, arrogant Socialist eggheads. From space.

Date: 2009-04-07 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brand-of-amber.livejournal.com
Sounds like the French to me. But, the French are also very, very sexy.

So, I hope they make the Vulcans very, very sexy.

Date: 2009-04-08 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com
That would help! Like, with elves!

Date: 2009-04-07 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com
...would not count on it.

Date: 2009-04-07 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nottheterritory.livejournal.com
Actually I think it started even before that. Vulcans were mostly invisible through TNG (with the exception of Spock's family) but I remember that by later in the run, when they appeared, they were essentially assumed to be dishonest rather than bhuddistic. Remember the episode where Guinan helps Crusher solve the murder of a Ferengi scientist. One of the suspects is a Vulcan whose motive was assumed to be jealously - there was absolutely no even nod to the idea that a Vulcan might be above jealousy, it was just assumed they had the same problem with it that any other species would and were just pretending...

Date: 2009-04-07 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com
Come to think of it, I first presented this theory when watching the episode of DS9 wherein Sisko plays holodeck baseball against a team of really sour Vulcans. (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Take_Me_Out_to_the_Holosuite_(episode))

Date: 2009-04-07 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com
Which is to say: meddling, ineffective, humorlessness, arrogant Socialist eggheads. From space.

...actually, that was pretty much everybody in TNG season 1.

Date: 2009-04-08 07:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hossblacksilver.livejournal.com
Of course there was that crazy Vulcan sniper on DS9 as well. In fact, aside from Spock and Sarek the only decently played Vulcan was Tuvok.

Date: 2009-04-08 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pxtl.livejournal.com
Personally, I loved that episode. The fleshed out the superhuman vulcans in a way that didn't give them some kryptonite-esque weakness.

Whenever writers tackle the problem of a superhuman race like the elves or the vulcans or the Kryptonians or anything, they're always tempted to give them an achilles heel.

With the Vulcans, they didn't. They didn't make Vulcans are stronger, faster, smarter, and better thinkers than humans, and don't have humans' emotional weaknesses.

Is it any wonder they'd be a little arrogant?

And Sisko found out the one drawback of this - it isn't very much fun.

uh

Date: 2009-04-08 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pxtl.livejournal.com
I think I had a brain-O in there - nix "they didn't make".

Date: 2009-04-07 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doc-mystery.livejournal.com
Sounds like elves to me...

::B::

Date: 2009-04-08 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] relee.livejournal.com
They always have a plot where they need to get laid, badly.

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