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pyat ([personal profile] pyat) wrote2009-03-03 08:52 pm
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Pyat and the Hidden Castles - MONSTER SUPER MEGA PIC POST!

While [livejournal.com profile] velvetpage was in surgery, I took a long walk. The surgical waiting area is inevitably filled with angry people, sad people, irritated people, or worried people, and I was pretty sure I was going to be sitting there for several hours anyway, while she was in recovery.

So. Walking. Up and down the Mountain. I took about 200 photos.

Oh! First stop, though was to the Neonatal Unit, where my oldest and best friend's wife had just given birth to their second child. Both mom and daughter were already set for dischage, after a single day in hospital, and both mom and baby were beautiful.

Then, outside, to walking. It was very cold and clear. The hospital is built into the side of the Hamilton Escarpment, and the area around it is a sort of odd "tiered" district, with houses and streets clinging to different levels of a steep incline.

There are hidden castles, wooded trails, ziggurats, bunkers, and secret cellars, for those with the right eyes to see 'em.

We'll start with the first of the castles, the one that's hidden right in the bones of the city.


Can you see it?


Look closer! That is the roof of an enormous mid-19th century manor home that was once surrounded by gracious parkland. The city grew around it. This is all that can be seen from the street.



Going around the block and cutting through a parking lot and into the back of an apartment built, we find the back of the manor house. Now subdivided into offices and low-rent apartments.


Complete with modern amenities!


The grand entrance runs into the back of a strip mall.


The rest of the building has been consumed by the shabby grey block on the right. It is called, perhaps ironically, "The Castle Building."


Looking down on creation. James Street South, anyway.


Looking north on the James Street hill.


The Medical Arts Building reminds me of a zigurrat temple. Well, sometimes.


Inside... ANALOG ELEVATOR NUMBERS! Like in MOVIES!


Another mansion, just 200 metres from the building with the shabby man peering over a shabby balcony. This is downtown Hamilton for you - rich and poor living cheek by jowl, at least in a broad strip along the base of the Mountain.


Detail of the tower.


Ballinahinch! Bless you!


The front. This is, again, right off the James Street hill.


And this is where Mr. and Mrs. Legoman retired.


Look up from the second "tier", to the third and four "tiers" of neighborhoods.


Across Burlington Bay, 9.2 kms (5.75 miles), the hospital where I was born!


Looking north toward Lake Ontario and the steel mills. Behind you can see the Toronto skyline. The CN Tower is 61 kms (38 miles) from the side of the Mountain, where I took this photo.


Mad prophets! Someone has been posting these around town since I was a kid.


Rock Castle, the front door of which is inacessible from any surface street. The mansion itself is about 150 feet above the lower city, with two "tiers" of houses about 80 feet and 30 feet below it. I took this photo from a trail about 20 feet below.


The entrance of the apartment building on the right is about 30 feet below Rock Castle, though it towers over the mansion.


This is the trail I was on.


This bunker may or may not lead to the dungeons of Rock Castle.


THIS is the path to the castle door. It is private property...


...so I'll pretend to be lost!


Walking up the Jolly Cut. That's the back of Rock Castle on the left. Part of it, anyway.


Walking back down the James Street Hill...


My destination. It was lunchtime, so I had a burger and coffee.

[identity profile] zorinlynx.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
This is awesome.

I love it when classic architecture is kept around and continues to be used, instead of demolishing and rebuilding every 40-50 years like they do down here.

[identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
It is really neat to see huge 19th mansions dotted with digital receivers, I must admit. :)

[identity profile] annakitfox.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Hope your lady love will be feel better soon. :(

[identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks, ma'am!

[identity profile] paka.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Sir, you live in a White Wolf game. You do know this, right? I'd say Werewolf the Apocalypse, but I'm biased because that's like, one of my two favorite games ever.

[identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Have you ever been to Pittsburgh? That place is surprisingly White Wolf.

They have a Cathedral. To SCIENCE.
Image

Seriously, though, anytime I've been there for AC, it was like Hamilton crossed with Dark City.

[identity profile] paka.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
The Bay Area isn't especially White Wolf like, but there is one set of lofts with really huge windows, in a former 19th century warehouse, next to the railroad tracks, in Oakland. I don't think real humans live there, only LARP characters.

[identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
And that place owns the world both inside and out!

Pittsburgh Building - Deco - Mundelein College

[identity profile] ankhorite.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Very art deco - reminds me of my own college in Chicago. The angel on the right is holding the earth and the torch of knowledge.

Image (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mundelein_College)

[identity profile] hossblacksilver.livejournal.com 2009-03-06 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, I wouldn't say White Wolf. That building is tall gothic, so I'd go with it looking more like it came straight out of 40K.

[identity profile] mrs-dm.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, you certainly have an eye for architecture.

Our financial management company (MD Management) used to have their offices in that Medical Arts building on 1 Young St.

Have you ever noticed that they used to build "Medical Arts" buildings, and now they build, "Health Sciences" Centres?

I much prefer the former.

[identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 12:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I mostly agree, though now I'm wondering if there should be such thing as a Medical Art Gallery, and whether or not the contents would be frightening.

[identity profile] madmanofprague.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
Looking north toward Lake Ontario and the steel mills. Behind you can see the Toronto skyline. The CN Tower is 61 kms (38 miles) from the side of the Mountain, where I took this photo.
I can see my house from here!

[identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Put some pants on, man!

[identity profile] dagoski.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Man, next time we're in Ontario me and the missus will have to entice you to take us on a walking tour of Hamilton. This city looks neat.

[identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
All right! :) Though it might remind you of a sort of smaller Pittsburgh. :)

[identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
Looks disturbingly like Youngstown, but with less vacant housing.

[identity profile] commanderteddog.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
It has a similar history - steel town, used to be a mafia hotbed, very working class. That's what made going to Youngstown so freaky. The homes in your old neighborhood look like the ones around my old high school.

One of the two mills announced a "temporary closing" today. I'm worried sick about the city, even though I'm in Toronto now.

[identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Similar stories, definitely. Both old steel towns. Hamilton has a larger urban core - 500,000 - but cities seem to be about the same size, overall.

[identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
In land-area? Youngstown's population is about 85,000 right now. Similar stories, though as Teddog can attest, Hamilton is still a good deal nicer even at its worse than Youngstown -- there's next to nothing redeemable about that city. It's funny, in a sad sort of way; citizens groups meet and talk about how to bring money back in, and have since the mills closed, and yet... still the same.

[identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm not sure! I'm just going by stuff I remember from Wiki. From what I'd read, Youngstown has a population of about 600,000 in the metro area, while Hamilton has 650,000 or so.

But while 500,000 of ours is "urban" (living in the original city), only 80,000 or so people in Youngstown live in the original city. Maybe the rest is just smaller cities surrounding it that were just incorporated into the city on paper while not being part of it?

[identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Heck if I know; I just know that Youngstown has well under 100,000 residents.

[identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, wow. So, Pittsburgh must be like... Super Youngstown or something, to you. :)

[identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no. No... comparing Pittsburgh to Youngstown is like comparing the Emerald City in the Wizard of Oz to the house that got dropped on the witch. Pittsburgh doesn't look, taste, feel or anything like Youngstown does.

Cleveland is slightly more comparable.

[identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Cleveland is slightly more comparable.

I've not been to Cleveland, but I hear the unofficial motto of Cleveland and Cincinati is "We don't do that here!"

[identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
For Cleveland, it ought to be, "The map won't help. Enjoy your stay, side-step the condoms on the street."

[identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
You really should be working for the Ohio Tourism Board. :)

[identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
LMAO! I'm sure they'd love me.

"Youngstown: Visit for the heartbreak, stay because your car was stolen."

"Lordstown: Visit to see the GM plant; one of the only places you can actually smell fear in the air."

"Craig Beach: Trust me, it really is only marginally better than the movie Deliverance."

Actually, though, I do love Ohio. It has its good and bad points, like all places.

[identity profile] mar2nee.livejournal.com 2009-03-05 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
"stay because your car was stolen" - I really did laugh out loud. Thanks, I needed the laugh.

[identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com 2009-03-05 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
::bows:: Speaking from experience.

[identity profile] mar2nee.livejournal.com 2009-03-05 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, THAT'S too bad (the experience).

[identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com 2009-03-05 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, s'okay. We got it back, actually. And it probably wasn't all accurate -- we already lived in Youngstown. I'll venture to say that the police there are experts at stolen car recovery. We had it back the next morning.

[identity profile] mar2nee.livejournal.com 2009-03-05 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow - all recked up, or all fine?
That's really fast.

[identity profile] slwatson.livejournal.com 2009-03-05 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
The column was busted up, and the lock on the passenger's side door was busted. But it was in 4WD at the time, and I guess our thief hated how it handled; he only took it two blocks away. Didn't even steal the change out of the console. Then, a couple days later, he tried for it again... this time, we'd popped the coil-wire off. ::smirks:: So, he failed.

[identity profile] waiwode.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
Man, what you could do with a camera here in Sydney, where the Georgian, the Victorian, the Edwardian, and the next Georgian all blend together.

Doug.

[identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
One day, I'd quite like to visit. :)

[identity profile] commanderteddog.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
My favourite part of going to St Joe's was wandering around the surrounding area. It always seemed magical compared to the area of East Hamilton I lived in.

Fun note - I knew a girl who used to live in Rock Castle. At least, I THINK she did. We had to pick her up for a church activity and I remember going up to the house to knock on the door - IN THE DARK! It was very odd.

[identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
My favourite part of going to St Joe's was wandering around the surrounding area. It always seemed magical compared to the area of East Hamilton I lived in.

I know exactly what you mean! Anytime I've been at or aruond St. Joes for bloodwork or a hospital visit, I take the time to wander about a bit and explore the nooks and crannies. I love that little stretch of store in the limestone buildings - it looks like it's been teleported from Kingston. However, I'm always a bit disappointed to realize that "Wizards" is a beauty parlour.

I wondered about Rock Castle for years, because it just seemed to hang there, stuck on the the middle of the escarpment. I think I was nearly 30 before I found the actual front path.

[identity profile] mar2nee.livejournal.com 2009-03-05 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
syd has some friends in the neighborhood, and I always enjoy getting lost looking for the addresses - I like what Adam calls the "haunted houses."

[identity profile] kfops.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 12:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I always enjoy your photo tours, even if I don't really have anything constructive or insightful to add!

[identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

[identity profile] lee-in-limbo.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
You have an annoying gift for making me want to go exploring more than I do. This city has a lot of mediocre modern stuff, but it also has some pretty classy stuff hidden away if you know where to look.

Lee.

[identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, the weather is getting nicer, and you have lots of cool little spots around your apartment, I think... grab a camera, and get recording!

[identity profile] lee-in-limbo.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 05:37 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a nice idea, but there's too much running around to do today. Just got back from a doctor's appointment, and now I have to figure out how to get up to the Petsmart on Stonechurch and buy something for this crazy cat's claws. Dawn gets off work at a quarter to 6, and then we're going shoe shopping. I'm eating pasta out of a can because it's all I have time and money for. Would have loved a burger though. If the weather holds up, maybe I'll go take some photos tomorrow.

Lee.